Would You Call? (online Hand)

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Postby Markas on Sun Sep 09, 2007 1:27 pm

Down to heads up at a SnG.

One player has 9,000 chips
Two player has 6,000 chips

Blinds 100/200

1 is in SB calls
2 is in BB raises to 600
1 calls

Ac 4s 9d

2 bets 1500
1 calls

Turn Ks

2 goes all in for 3900

Now my question is:

After seeing all the raises would you call with 75 of spades?
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Postby Skyliner on Sun Sep 09, 2007 2:35 pm

no
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Postby Markas on Sun Sep 09, 2007 3:00 pm

Skyliner wrote:no


Can you say why? Because such posts don't make much sense for new players :unsure:
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Postby Cru3LL on Sun Sep 09, 2007 4:03 pm

I think easy call because you have 1,9:1 odds for your flush and pot odds offer to you 2,1:1 .
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Postby Markas on Sun Sep 09, 2007 8:43 pm

Cru3LL wrote:I think easy call because you have 1,9:1 odds for your flush and pot odds offer to you 2,1:1 .

in a long run you will lose more, definately you have to fold. I thought about this.
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Postby DarekaZ on Sun Sep 09, 2007 9:26 pm

no, because you have no more than 20% to win.
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Postby Skyliner on Sun Sep 09, 2007 9:49 pm

Markas wrote:can you say why? because such posts doesn't make much sense for newbie players :unsure:

You asked and I answered ;) . if you want to hear why, then its another thing :)
Like darekaZ said, its about 20 % or even less chance . Also nobody from experianced players will pay so much chips if they will think - maybe, with a so small opportunity to win. If they are bluffing yes , but even bluff in this situation would be visible.
It's my opinion.
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Postby suvalgysiu on Fri Sep 21, 2007 10:21 pm

BB isn't bluffing - he raised 3xBB preflop, I'd put him on A9 or A8 preflop, so if he had A9 he has 2 pairs and is trying to push you off of your draw. Like someone said it's only ~20% to get a flush on the river, so I'd fold.

BTW, why did you call after the flop? Or were you the BB and recieved a beating from the SB ? :D
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Postby poker_james on Tue Oct 02, 2007 9:31 am

suvalgysiu wrote:BB isn't bluffing - he raised 3xBB preflop, I'd put him on A9 or A8 preflop, so if he had A9 he has 2pair and is trying to push you off of your draw. Like someone said it's only ~20% to get a flush on the river, so I'd fold.

BTW, why did you call after the flop? Or were you the BB and recieved a beating from the SB ? :D

At this point, it doesn't even matter what the BB is holding. He can even have pocket aces in his hands and it doesn't really affect the decision to call or to fold at this point. You are going for a flush which would beat the top pair, two pairs, or trips. The opponent cannot have a full house and higher flush is not very likely.

Personally, I think I would fold. Even though there is a small chance that you might get lucky on the river and win. But there is even greater chance that you will lose this hand and you'll be a huge shortstack after that. Therefore, I'd fold.
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Postby janark on Wed Oct 03, 2007 4:09 pm

Markas wrote:Down to heads up at a SnG.

One player has 9,000 chips
Two player has 6,000 chips

Blinds 100/200

1 is in SB calls
2 is in BB raises to 600
1 calls

Ac 4s 9d

2 bets 1500
1 calls

Turn Ks
2 goes all in for 3900
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Now my question is:

After seeing all the raises would you call with 75 of spades?


First of all, I can't imagine being in this kind of situation. However, if a very unlikely event like this would happen, it would be an easy fold. The pot is giving you odds of 2:1 and the possibility to hit your spade on the river is 1:4.5. Plus, your opponent might easily have a higher flush draw. Plus, you have virtually lost the tournament if you call and lose - you would have 3000 chips against your opponent's 12k.

Now I'll try to explain why would I never get into such situation:

1. Preflop 1 - I can't find a sane reason to call the blind with 7/5. I have to add, that I actually can't find a sane reason to call with anything, from the SB in a heads-up game. From SB it is almost always correct to either raise or fold, but never call! Depending on my opponent, it is possible that I'd raise with the 7/5 - but that would change the scenario dramatically.

2. Preflop 2 - You have called on the small blind and the big blind makes it 600. The pot is 800 total and your call is 400 more, giving you 1:2 pot odds. At this point, it would also be an easy fold (1:2 odds with 7/5? No thanks!) or maybe a reraise, if I put my opponent on a steal. Never call.

3. Flop - On the flop you have nothing - zip. zero. nada! - and your opponent makes a slight overbet. I wouldn't, under any circumstances, make that call. It is a horrible call dependless on what your opponent is holding. Again, its possible that I would reraise (that's if I put my opponent on a bluff), but no way on earth I would call.
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