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well, i don't know if it's a bad example (with CS), you know anti-cheats like C-D, well a new version of the anticheat comes out and a week later it's hacked. the c-d project eventually gave up, the cheaters won.

ofcourse poker sites take care of their security much more, but i guess everything can be hacked, just like anything that can be made, can be copied.

it's quite simple, all you need is to find out the way the site gives information to players about their cards, then you need to trick to site into showing you someone else's cards.

i wish i was a good programmer, then i'd make a program like that for myself =), btw i don't think that anyone in huge sites like Partypoker, FTP or PStars could trace 1 man, who's using some soart of cheat.

suvalgysiu wrote:ofcourse poker sites take care of their security much more, but i guess everything can be hacked, just like anything that can be made, can be copied.

I second that. With the right amount of social engineering (guys from inside the company helping you in your "project"), anything can be done indeed, but I seriously doubt if someone who don't have any help from the inside and don't have a physical access to the servers of a poker site, can ever accomplish something like this.

suvalgysiu wrote:it's quite simple, all you need is to find out the way the site gives information to players about their cards, then you need to trick to site into showing you someone else's cards.

It's not that simple, really. If this theory was correct then good hackers would be able to easily read everyone's e-mails, MSN conversations etc. (all the need to do is find out the way the e-mails are delivered through the web and then trick the server so it would show them someone else's e-mails, right?)

However, you're forgetting two important facts here:
1. The network traffic moves between point A to point B (server <> client), crossing only the channels it needs to, in order to reach its destination. Thus, it would be possible to "listen" to the traffic about dealt cards only if you'd be physically in the same network with the server (and needless to say, it's not possible to accomplish this unless you know the security guys at the poker site's data center very well.)
2. Poker sites tend to encrypt the information that is delivered via the Internet, meaning that the information can only be understood by the site's own software. The software, in the other hand, is compiled and there getting the encryption algorithm out of it is close to impossible.

suvalgysiu wrote:i wish i was a good programmer, then i'd make a program like that for myself =)

... and go to prison for that. (hacking, or should I say stealing money, is against the law in Lithuania, as well.)

suvalgysiu wrote:, btw i don't think that anyone in huge sites like Partypoker, FTP or PStars could trace 1 man, who's using some soart of cheat.

Certainly they would trace this man down, and faster than you expect them to. With security being one of the main concerns of poker site operators today, it is very easy for them to notice ANYTHING unusual that's going on (non-standard requests to the server, reverse-engineering the client software etc.) and believe me, the major poker sites are willing to suspend thousands of accounts even if they have the smallest fear that something suspicious is happening. It's just that it is much cheaper to suspend a few accounts than it is to face the consequences in case someone really finds out the method to cheat (and steal money from them).

Do you think poker bots bluff? Do they store betting patterns and all the other stuff about the players like pokertrackers?
Btw I think pokertracker is a kind of bot too, if it helps to do desicions for you.